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Individuals For Justice Blog
Friday, 22 March 2013
City Council Report Back: Spending Time With The 5 Shi-s
Mood:  lyrical
Now Playing: There was a good moment {the picture tells the story}
Topic: City Hall


Spending Time With The 5 Shi-s

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/03/422478.shtml

March 20, 2013, 4:03 PM

I attended the council meeting yesterday March 20,2013 and sure enough there was a guy there telling the council how wonderful it will be when we fluoridate our wonderful drinking water. He said that the difference between Portland tooth decay is 40% higher than Seattle's---Today! Right now! This very moment. I knew this was a lie, so once again I had to dig up the real figures and send them to the 5 shi-s who sat there looking like groupies eating up every BS thing he said. Here is some of what I found:

 http://www.fluoridealert.org/studies/caries01/

There are some good graphs showing the difference among many nations, remember that most of the western world will not touch this crap, they have resisted big US of A pressure to add Hydrofluosilicic Acid to their drinking water. He went on to say how this is the best thing for kids---I get a little angry when the lobbyists do this, because it is a lie. He did not mention that 40 % of kids are now showing signs of fluorosis, guess he forgot that part.

 http://children.webmd.com/fluorosis-symptoms-causes-treatments


So what about his claim of Portland vs. Seattle and the question of cavities. He lied.

Portland-------21%
All of Oregon 44% (see page 12)

Portland does much better than the rest of Oregon, this is a trick that the lobbyists use all the time. The use the higher figure of Oregon vs. Seattle. Makes their case seem more credible, this from a study that recommends using fluoride, not one of ours.

 http://public.health.oregon.gov/PreventionWellness/oralhealth/Documents/smile_2007.pdf

Seattle---------20%
Washington---19%

Again these figures are from an agency that recommends using fluoridated water.

 http://www.kingcounty.gov/healthservices/health/personal/OralHealth/faq.aspx

When representatives tell lies, it does not further what we should be doing about cavities and the problems with ingesting fluorides or Hydrofluosilicic Acid or whatever you want to label it. There are two important concerns one what to do about kids having too many cavities and second, what to do about the dangers associated with putting this stuff in our drinking water. Neither should be ignored.
There was a positive thing that happened, the council was dealing with fees that citizens pay to do remodeling and a number of people testified that the fees were higher than other cities and should be lower. Staff gave a good report but if you ask staff what they recommend they will offer you the best item. This sounds reasonable but if the cost is too high you force people to ignore the program and do the fixing up without proper permits. The council listened and is going to take another look at the issue. This is a problem that I find in most of the things the council does, so I was happy they decided to take another look at the issue. Sometimes I get the feeling they are trying and that makes me smile.

There were speakers from R2DToo concerned that the council continues to fine their safe place to rest. I just do not understand the council on this and wonder why Steve and Amanda are not leading the charge to fix this problem. I will write to them and ask, and will let you know what, if anything, they say. This is one issue that just makes me weep for our city, 60-80 people are not asking for a handout, they want and deserve a safe place to sleep and try to take advantage of the programs downtown. Seems so simple to me----why?

 

 homepage: http://IndividualsForJustice.com


Posted by individuals4justice at 6:58 AM PDT
Updated: Friday, 22 March 2013 7:03 AM PDT
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Saturday, 2 March 2013
the Columbia Gorge Protection Brigade (neé North Portland Coal-Ition Brigade) on distributing coal-fires at terminals in Boardman
Mood:  energetic
Now Playing: Organizations opposed to coal transit through the Columbia River Gorge
Topic: ACTIONS !

Report From Barbara Ellis & Taizz Medalia 

 

the 

Columbia Gorge Protection Brigade 

(neé North Portland Coal-Ition Brigade) on distributing coal-fires at

 

terminals in Boardman

 

 


 

 

February 25, 2013


To: Organizations opposed to coal transit through the Columbia River Gorge


From: Barbara Ellis and Taizz Medalia


Two of us veterans of the North Portland Coal-Ition Brigade—did that  165-mile trip to Boardman to distribute 100 anti-coal-terminal fliers Sunday, Feb. 24. A lot of pre-trip research was done on Boardman itself in preparation for this combination posting/canvassing direct-action effort.


We arrived around noon accurately figuring that’s when the most people would be in the downtown area on both sides of I-84.


In posting fliers, we lunched at the hugely popular C & D burger eatery, posted the flier on its bulletin board, atop Nickel Ads stack, handed out a half-dozen, and left a pair in the uni-sex bathrooms. From there, it was posting it on the sides of 3 food-carts on Main street, distributing them to patrons of Boardman's busy laundromat, people outside the town’s outside the only supermarket and on its community billboard. Other spots were slipping fliers under the doors of the Senior Center and Head Start headquarters, and posting them on the door and on an inside bulletin board of a super-busy bodega.


We then went down to the fire station to hand a flier to one of the 7 paid firefighters (they have near ly 60 volunteers scattered from 11-50 miles away in Ione, Irrigon, Lexington, Hermiston, etc.). He and a colleague seemed totally unaware about information on the flier and admitted they had never had training in quenching a coal-fire. This well-known common hazard from stored coal evidently has never come up in public or private discussions/forums in Morrow County about Ambre’s proposed Boardman terminal. At least a half-dozen national companies are involved in quenching coal fires and training programs for firefighters.


He ensured the flier would be in the hands of the chief first thing Monday; hopefully, that will stir city officials to recognize either Ambre Energy provide a team of coal-fire specialists or that they’ll have to spend a small fortune on training the firefighters and buying the equipment/chemicals vital to putting out fires.


The last half of our nearly four-hour expedition was spent in canvassing nearly 40 houses/apartments in the low-income north side of I-84. Boardman has a heavy Latino/Pacific Islander population that seem to be working as part of the 500 employees at the ConAgra frozen potato complex; others may well be part of the staff of the two newest major plants in town: Pacific Ethanol (2007) and the ZeroChem cellulosic ethanol complex (2010) touted recently (2-18-13) in an Oregonian op-ed).


We counted only about four residents who were aware that a coal storage terminal was in the offing for barging it down the Gorge. They certainly had no idea that Morrow County officials/Port Commissioners were supporting a coal terminal at one of the two sites that’s near a railroad (the rendering of the small, covered plant suggests a spur off the present set of tracks will be carrying the coal to its conveyor belts).


One man, a pedestrian, took 2 fliers. He was super knowledgeable about the terminal deal and the most vocally opposed to the project. “Whatever Gene wants, Gene gets, “ he said. “ We were never asked about those two plants that came in here.” This “Gene” is not listed by google as either the mayor or member of City Council or Chamber of Commerce.  He said he was told that Ambre was going to bring in a special coal-fire team. That has to be news to the fire fighters, of course.


In almost all instances, we were greeted warmly and well. Everyone took the fliers except one lady going to her car at the supermarket.


The intention of this project was to make townspeople aware of the coal-fire dangers inherent of this proposed Boardman terminal—and to force the issue into the public eye in Ambre having to reveal how it plans to han! dle this all-too-common hazard.


The architectural rendering shows a covered terminal and Ambre has sent letters of intent to two Portland  companies (Vigor Industries, Gundersons) to build 15 covered coal barges. However, east of the Mississippi River, no coal barges/trains/terminals are covered seemingly because of the danger of spontaneous combustion setting off explosions and unquenchable fires. Because most coal fires are started by oxygen, enclosing coal suggests even greater danger of explosions/fires.


Too, considering that the coal Ambre plans to store at a Boardman terminal is sub-bituminous and, therefore, twice as volatile as from other eastern coal fields, it would appear that the fire hazard is twice as likely to happen as at eastern terminals.    -posted here on 3.2.13


Posted by individuals4justice at 4:19 PM PST
Updated: Saturday, 2 March 2013 4:53 PM PST
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Tuesday, 19 February 2013
DOJ: Dept Of Justice - Report Back from The Lone Vet
Mood:  bright
Now Playing: went to see the judge again
Topic: Justice

What happen on the 13th floor

There was a hearing today dealing with police accountability. These are my own thoughts and could be off the mark, feel free to critique this report. The hearing was in Federal Judge Michael Simon’s court and lasted about 1 hour or so.

Going to the federal courts is always an adventure in patience; security is almost a phobia. This time was not bad, the bus ride was longer than I expected but I did get to the courthouse on time. Judge Simon’s court is on the 13th floor, I was surprised that building even had a 13th floor, never mind holding hearings there. The judge did most of the talking and I will attempt to give you some idea of what happened. I was under the impression we would be given a scheduled date for public input on the settlement that was made behind closed doors. During a previous city council hearing the public did get about 90 seconds to comment, the last few were cut down to 60 seconds. We did not get to say anything today. The settlement will now go to a mediator as soon as one is selected. The problem is that the four groups who will have some say on what is the final settlement do not get along. The groups are:

1. Department of Justice,

2. The city of Portland,

3. The union representing the cops, 

4. The Albina Ministerial Alliance, made up of 125 Portland area churches. The AMA has less influence than the other three. I was surprised by this as I thought the AMA requested the investigation of Po Po in the first place. The judge decided that the AMA will have a place at the table, but they may have to wash the dishes after each meeting and will be sitting on shorter stools. (My thoughts.)

The judge started off good, announcing his desire to have this exercise open to the public but ended up closing most meetings down. The public can/maybe give testimony but will have to go to the courthouse during normal working hours and go through security. I was asked for a picture ID today and gather that will be the norm. JoAnn asked that a place be selected away from the cops and held on a Saturday or after work hours---Nope!

The AMA wanted the Justice Department to investigate race profiling, how the cops deal with homeless and in general a police department accountable to the people of Portland---Nope!

Where are we now?

The next step will be for the four groups to pick a mediator or, if they cannot agree on one, to submit 3 names to the judge and he will pick one. After that it gets very fuzzy, we may never see a police department that is concerned about killing a person. We just experienced another shooting in the last few days, a man was already a patient at Adventist Hospital and the reports so far say he had a gun and was threatening security at the hospital. There will be more on this in the coming days as the man was shot and killed. My impressions were mixed, Judge Simon seems to care about resolving this settlement and in the coming weeks and months it may get interesting. I was glad that I went, got to see some friends and let them know they do have support from Individuals For Justice. I will continue to monitor

Back to City Hall tomorrow and on Friday back to the Hawthorne Bridge, busy week for me.

author: Lone Vet    

 

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/02/421992.shtml 


Posted by individuals4justice at 11:28 PM PST
Updated: Tuesday, 19 February 2013 11:38 PM PST
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Wednesday, 13 February 2013
“To The Bridge I Say”
Mood:  on fire
Now Playing: Individuals For Justice will be returning to the Hawthorne Bridge on February 22, 2013
Topic: FLUORIDE

“To The Bridge I Say”

Individuals For Justice will be returning to the Hawthorne Bridge on February 22, 2013 to fight against adding toxic waste to our wonderful pure water by the 5 shi-s in the City Council. The vote will be in May and we must win this one for the sake of our children and senior citizens.

We spent two years fighting against drones and now they are being talked about by the MSM. We also fought to retire our wonderful and noble horses who were being used by the Po Po to hurt protesters. They are now being faded out and we are talking to the city council on how to retire the horses and not just sell them off.

We fought against the Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya wars and they are winding down, we hope. 
We hate the camping ban, covering of our reservoirs, sit lie/lie and rejoining the JTTF. 

So, will you join our little group of troublemakers to fight this stupid, dangerous, ill conceived idea of putting toxic waste in our drinking water? I will be there every Friday that I can to hold a sign against adding toxic waste to our drinking water. We may move around a little but our home will be the Hawthorne Bridge. Sometimes we may go early in the morning to greet people going to work, will let you know each Wednesday where we will be.

We will still try to attend the city council meetings with our shirts asking why they are so removed from the citizens. 

It will be a time on the bridge and you can be sure Joe-Anybody will be videoing from time to time, we do laugh a lot but take this issue very seriously. Try to help if you can.

Location: Westside on 1st and Madison (or where announced on Wed)
Time: about 4:00 PM until we get tired, 5:30 PM
Only rule, be proud of what you say on your sign or use one of ours.

 

[copied from Face Book on 2/12/13] 


Posted by individuals4justice at 11:16 PM PST
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Tuesday, 12 February 2013
fluoridation is not wanted - 2007 study of European public opinion
Now Playing: "rejecting the plans to add fluoride"
Topic: FLUORIDE

In May 2007: A study of European public opinion on water fluoridation, published in the journal Community Dentistry & Oral Epidemiology, reports that the “vast majority of people opposed water fluoridation.” According to the study, Europeans opposed fluoridation for the following reasons:

“Many felt dental health was an issue to be dealt with at the level of the individual, rather than a solution to be imposed en masse. While people accepted that some children were not encouraged to brush their teeth, they proposed other solutions to addressing these needs rather than having a solution of unproved safety imposed on them by public health authorities whom they did not fully trust. They did not see why they should accept potential side effects in order that a minority may benefit. In particular, water was something that should be kept as pure as possible, even though it was recognized that it already contains many additives.” (See study summary)

November 2004: After months of consulation, Scotland - which is currently unfluoridated – rejected plans to add fluoride to the nation’s water.

April 9, 2003: The City Parliament of Basel, Switzerland voted 73 to 23 to stop Basel’s 41 year water fluoridation program. Basel was the only city in Switzerland to fluoridate its water, and the only city in continental western Europe, outside of a few areas in Spain.

-Lone Vet  2/12/14 - originally posted on FaceBook 


Posted by individuals4justice at 9:17 AM PST
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Tuesday, 29 January 2013
Council Commissioner fish, is up for re-election in 2 years
Mood:  on fire
Now Playing: Call To Action - Citizen Involvement
Topic: City Hall

 

 

Portland City Council Commissioner fish, is up for re-election in 2 years 

The fish-man, (aka commissioner fish) is up for reelection in 2 years, we should find a candidate that will kick his ass.

We should make it very clear that if the council does not represent us, we will run them out of office. Do not listen to what they say, watch what the do and respond.

I would love to see all of us engaged, I know the meetings are boring but being a citizen means participation and letting them know that there are consequences for their actions---now they get a free ride.

Call to actions for all of you, post this on your pages, send it out to all and let us start to change this gang of hypocrites! I will attend and report on most meetings, but my health continues to give me fits and from time to time I will be in bed watching them on TV and yelling. It would be good to have more people engaged every week.

I want to see the Overpass Light Brigade illuminate the night sky with a message that says something like, “The 5 shi-s are at it again.”

HA! (1.29.13 The Lone Vet)

 


Posted by individuals4justice at 9:22 AM PST
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Thursday, 24 January 2013
Can we hold City Council to some rational standard of humanity?
Mood:  chatty
Now Playing: "It Is Time"
Topic: City Hall

 

 We Were There!

 

We attended the Portland, Or. City Council meeting on 1/23/2013..... and the five shi-s have not seen the light, they remain in the darkness. I was joined by a wonderful and gentle monk from Vietnam; that was amazing. Most of you know that I am not a holy or gentle type of guy, so sitting next to this man was a joy for me. The rest of this report will not be so good.

 

We need to pack this chamber every week, if you can will you join Individuals For Justice and hold these people to some rational standard of humanity? We need you to attend and challenge what they are doing week after week. If you can't go to the meetings would you send the 5 shi-s an email after watching the video of the meeting. It is important that we have a presence and tell them what we think should happen. Many of you know that I believe a nervous politician is a good politician. We need to do more.

 

Just think of what the last council did and what this new council is continuing:

 

1. Rejoined the Joint Terrorist Task Force, even though most of us asked them not to join forces with the FBI.

 

2. Sit-Lie Lie bullshit!

 

3. Want to add poison to our water, cover the reservoirs and close Right to Dream Too.

 

4. Camping Ban

 

4. In coordination with the FBI raided Occupy Camps!

 

5. Spent money on buildings without asking any homeless/houseless people what they really need.

 

6. Make promises and then break them almost immediately.

 

7. Arrest peacemakers but promote rogue cops.

 

8. Make up their minds before the first public testimony is given.

 

9. If you watch closely, you will see half the time one or more members don't have a clue what staff is talking about.

 

10. Spend money on overtime like there is no shortage of funds.

 

I could go on and on but you should get the picture by now, they just laugh at us.

I could go on and on but you should get the picture by now, they just laugh at us.

 

The fish-man is up for re-election in 2 years, we should find a candidate that will kick his ass. We should make it very clear that if the council does not represent us, we will run them out of office. Do not listen to what they say, watch what they do and respond. I would love to see all of us engaged, I know the meetings are boring but being a citizen means participation and letting them know that there are consequences for their actions---now they get a free ride. Call to action for all of you, post this on your pages, send it out to all and let us start to change this gang of hypocrites! I will attend and report on most meetings, but my health continues to give me fits and from time to time I will be in bed watching them on TV and yelling. It would be good to have more people engaged every week. I want to see the Overpass Light Brigade illuminate the night sky with a message that says something like, "The 5 shi-s are at it again."

 

HA! 


Agenda for Council Meeting 1/23/2013

 http://www.portlandonline.com/auditor/index.cfm?c=26997

 

Council meeting 1/23/2013 video

 http://www.portlandonline.com/index.cfm?c=49508&a=430875

 

Call members of the 5 shi-s

Elected Officials Portfolios and Liaison Responsibilities

 

Charlie Hales, Mayor

Commissioner of Finance and Administration

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Ave, Room 340, 97204

Phone: (503)823-4120

e-mail:  mayorhales@portlandoregon.gov

 

Amanda Fritz

 

Commissioner of Public Utilities, Position Number 1

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Avenue, Room 220, 97204

Phone: (503) 823-3008

E-mail:  amanda@portlandoregon.gov

 

Nick Fish

 

Commissioner of Public Works, Position Number 2

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Ave, Room 240, 97204

(503) 823-3589

e-mail:  Nick@portlandoregon.gov

 

 

 

Steve Novick

Commissioner of Public Safety, Position Number 4

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Ave, Room 210, 97204

Phone: (503) 823-4682

e-mail:  Steve.Novick@portlandoregon.gov

 

 

 

Dan Saltzman

Commissioner of Public Affairs, Position Number 3

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Avenue, Room 230, 97204

Phone: (503) 823-4151

E-mail:  dan@portlandoregon.gov

 

 

 

LaVonne Griffin-Valade

City Auditor

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Avenue, Room 140, 97204

Phone: (503) 823-4078

E-mail:  LaVonne@portlandoregon.gov

 

"It Is Time"

 

Joe Walsh-Lone Vet


 homepage: http://IndividualsForJustice.com


Posted by individuals4justice at 2:16 PM PST
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Can we hold City Council to some rational standard of humanity?
Mood:  chatty
Now Playing: "It Is Time"
Topic: City Hall

 

 We Were There!

 

We attended the Portland, Or. City Council meeting on 1/23/2013..... and the five shi-s have not seen the light, they remain in the darkness. I was joined by a wonderful and gentle monk from Vietnam; that was amazing. Most of you know that I am not a holy or gentle type of guy, so sitting next to this man was a joy for me. The rest of this report will not be so good.

 

We need to pack this chamber every week, if you can will you join Individuals For Justice and hold these people to some rational standard of humanity? We need you to attend and challenge what they are doing week after week. If you can't go to the meetings would you send the 5 shi-s an email after watching the video of the meeting. It is important that we have a presence and tell them what we think should happen. Many of you know that I believe a nervous politician is a good politician. We need to do more.

 

Just think of what the last council did and what this new council is continuing:

 

1. Rejoined the Joint Terrorist Task Force, even though most of us asked them not to join forces with the FBI.

 

2. Sit-Lie Lie bullshit!

 

3. Want to add poison to our water, cover the reservoirs and close Right to Dream Too.

 

4. Camping Ban

 

4. In coordination with the FBI raided Occupy Camps!

 

5. Spent money on buildings without asking any homeless/houseless people what they really need.

 

6. Make promises and then break them almost immediately.

 

7. Arrest peacemakers but promote rogue cops.

 

8. Make up their minds before the first public testimony is given.

 

9. If you watch closely, you will see half the time one or more members don't have a clue what staff is talking about.

 

10. Spend money on overtime like there is no shortage of funds.

 

I could go on and on but you should get the picture by now, they just laugh at us.

I could go on and on but you should get the picture by now, they just laugh at us.

 

The fish-man is up for re-election in 2 years, we should find a candidate that will kick his ass. We should make it very clear that if the council does not represent us, we will run them out of office. Do not listen to what they say, watch what they do and respond. I would love to see all of us engaged, I know the meetings are boring but being a citizen means participation and letting them know that there are consequences for their actions---now they get a free ride. Call to action for all of you, post this on your pages, send it out to all and let us start to change this gang of hypocrites! I will attend and report on most meetings, but my health continues to give me fits and from time to time I will be in bed watching them on TV and yelling. It would be good to have more people engaged every week. I want to see the Overpass Light Brigade illuminate the night sky with a message that says something like, "The 5 shi-s are at it again."

 

HA! 


Agenda for Council Meeting 1/23/2013

 http://www.portlandonline.com/auditor/index.cfm?c=26997

 

Council meeting 1/23/2013 video

 http://www.portlandonline.com/index.cfm?c=49508&a=430875

 

Call members of the 5 shi-s

Elected Officials Portfolios and Liaison Responsibilities

 

Charlie Hales, Mayor

Commissioner of Finance and Administration

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Ave, Room 340, 97204

Phone: (503)823-4120

e-mail:  mayorhales@portlandoregon.gov

 

Amanda Fritz

 

Commissioner of Public Utilities, Position Number 1

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Avenue, Room 220, 97204

Phone: (503) 823-3008

E-mail:  amanda@portlandoregon.gov

 

Nick Fish

 

Commissioner of Public Works, Position Number 2

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Ave, Room 240, 97204

(503) 823-3589

e-mail:  Nick@portlandoregon.gov

 

 

 

Steve Novick

Commissioner of Public Safety, Position Number 4

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Ave, Room 210, 97204

Phone: (503) 823-4682

e-mail:  Steve.Novick@portlandoregon.gov

 

 

 

Dan Saltzman

Commissioner of Public Affairs, Position Number 3

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Avenue, Room 230, 97204

Phone: (503) 823-4151

E-mail:  dan@portlandoregon.gov

 

 

 

LaVonne Griffin-Valade

City Auditor

City Hall @ 1221 SW 4th Avenue, Room 140, 97204

Phone: (503) 823-4078

E-mail:  LaVonne@portlandoregon.gov

 

"It Is Time"

 

Joe Walsh-Lone Vet


 homepage: http://IndividualsForJustice.com


Posted by individuals4justice at 2:14 PM PST
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Saturday, 12 January 2013
Steve and The PDX Coal Train - January 2013 - By Barbara Ellis
Mood:  sharp
Now Playing: Report Back - Coal Trains In Portland and Steve Novic - Scoping comments from Barbara E.
Topic: City Hall

[This full blog reposted below is from a public Email]

[I'm forwarding this because it's good to know one's opponents (or in this case, affirm what we know of this political animal.)  

I hope no one is inspired to begin an ad hominem attack of Mr. Novick, as that would be a waste of energy.   

It has already (from his campaign) become apparent to many of us that his reputation re  Love Canal is so raggedy and threadbare that it cannot even serve as a figleaf...    Pam]

 


 


Thanks, Beth. Please keep me updated on developments, but I don't
have a blast list on coal so I could FW.
Let me tell you what new PDX commissioner Steve Novick told me and
Joe Walsh this a.m. after the city council's Wednesday morning
meeting. We both know him from the 2010 campaign and jumped him today
about his pro-coal views. He told us "I need data" which he indicated
was not sufficient enough for him. That he wanted to see what
MultnomahCounty's environmental folks came up with. I laughed out
loud and pointed out we wanted the feds/state to do a deep study. To
depend on any county data is laughable because they have neither the
money/staff equipped to do such a study. His next comment having to
do with diesel train engines spewing that stuff (including cyanide)
was that "You might as well ban gas stations, then." (!!!)

 

This from the guy who was among the feds attorneys that shut down Love Canal because of the toxic wastes Occidental, et al. left behind.

 

From the guy who more recently was working for the health folks until Commissioner Randy Leonard indicated he wasn't

going to run for re- election and gave the nod to Steve (who won unopposed in last spring's primary).

 

Lawyer's logic above environmental health, in short, is his credo. When I left, Joe and he were still in heated discussion.


Over and out for now.
Barbara


Posted by individuals4justice at 3:29 PM PST
Updated: Saturday, 12 January 2013 3:49 PM PST
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Wednesday, 9 January 2013
Portland City Council Meeting 1.9.13 - The Lone Vet Report
Mood:  loud
Now Playing: 1 Million Dollar Project - A City Council Report back fro The Lone Vet
Topic: City Hall

Portland City Council Meeting

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2013/01/421263.shtml

author: Lone Vet       lonevet2008@comcast.net

 

very confusing???

 

          we should always be watching  

 


January 9, 2013 at city hall, all five of the members were present and for the most part, paying attention. Commissioner Fish was a little late but did not miss much. Actually, there was not much to deal with during the 90 minute meeting, except this item:

"TIMES CERTAIN

*21 TIME CERTAIN: 9:30 AM - Authorize the Bureau of Transportation to acquire certain permanent and temporary rights necessary for construction of the SW Boones Ferry Rd - SW Stephenson St Project, through the exercise of the City's Eminent Domain Authority (Ordinance introduced by Mayor Hales) 15 minutes requested."

This request did turn interesting; it did go a lot longer than 15 minutes as requested, and there were a number of citizens who objected to the limited way the city was going ahead with this project. One woman said straight out that the change will not deal at all with the biggest problem they have and that is speeding. I was a little confused by this because I thought this was a simple problem that was going to be finally answered by the city--wrong!

This was presented as an emergency which means that you have to get all the members to agree or they would have to do a second reading and more discussion. The cost of this project is not cheap, in the range of over a million bucks.
One of the things I learned if you put your mouse on the item number, in this case *21 you get more info to understand what they are going to do with your money.

   
http://www.portlandonline.com/auditor/index.cfm?c=50265&a=428559

"5) Expense: What are the costs to the City related to this legislation? What is the source of Funding for the expense? (Please include costs in the current fiscal year as well as costs in future years. If the action is related to a grant or contract please include the local contribution or match required. If there is a project estimate, please identify the level of confidence.)

$10,000, which includes the costs associated with the filing of a condemnation action by the City Attorney's Office if necessary. These expenses are covered as part of this cost center budgeted appreciations. This dollar amount does not include the costs of the property acquisition and construction of the project. These costs are included in the project's budget. This dollar amount also does not include the costs of prolonged litigation or those associated with appellate court proceedings."

There is no way of trying to figure out how much this is going to cost, during the testimony the figure of $1,000,000+ was being thrown around, but one would not know this from the info given. I hate it when they do this stuff!
Well, it was interesting and if you get a chance, watch the testimony on this item. Sometime after Friday you should be able to go and find the video for the 9th of January. One of the things that bothered me about what was going on, the council members had an expression on their collected faces saying they did not understand what was going on either. There was a gathering of people in the area and a vast majority was reported to favor this construction---amazing!

Barbara was with me today and we did speak a little with Comm. Steve Novick about the council and what he thinks about the coming coal trains. He wants the county medical/environmentalist people to do some investigation and let him know what the damage to our environment will be with these open coal trains coming through our city. We disagreed, but I understood what he was saying; unusual for me and a politician to understand each other. We shall see on this, I am not encouraged!

I have no idea where this council will end up, but the unanimous vote on the above issue did not leave me with any good feelings. We will see!

If you get the opportunity please come to the meetings, it is important that we keep a presence at all the meeting, a major task I know. Until next week, smile things will probably get worse. Ha!

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